argh...I think my starter is going bad...

[Wa Mei]

Well,

I manage to paint and prep the boat for the new slip without too much
issues...well, almost. Hoopnet Cat Island on Saturday and I think I found
the lobster nursery. Got 2 and bagged it early.

Work up early this morning and tried to turn on the motor...click click...
huh? No problem, I will switch it to the starter battery and again click click.
Crap! Checked my battery meter and I say 12v. Nice tow in from Vessel Assist to the new slip.

I Hook up shore power and proceed to clean the boat. I was about to start
removing the starter, but decided to hit the switch and she comes alive...wtf? Turn her off and tried again...click click? Finished washing the boat and hit the switch and she starts again!

Do you guys think my starter is going bad or do I have a battery problem?

[DOGHOUSE26]

Battery Problem ! What size and type are you running?

[Al Gagnon]

Verify the batteries have enough water. Mine were 3 years old and I had not checked the water level because of all the cros over cables would not allow me to pull the caps. I could not get my engines to start so I turned on my generator and used the battery charger to charge them for an hour. They started with help of starting fluid. When I got home I decided to just change them out. I pulled the batteries and bought new ones. Fluid level was way down below the plates. Maintenance, maintenance, maintenance. A lot of problems can be solved by asking your self, have I done the maintenance for this item. Good luck.

[Wa Mei]

Battery Problem ! What size and type are you running?

Hey Jeff,
I use 2 6V trojans for the house. I do alot of sitting on the hook at the island and they have serve me well. They are only about 18 months old. I got a feeling my starting battery may have gone bad. I will take it out and have it load tested before I take the starter out.

[Wa Mei]

Verify the batteries have enough water. Mine were 3 years old and I had not checked the water level because of all the cros over cables would not allow me to pull the caps. I could not get my engines to start so I turned on my generator and used the battery charger to charge them for an hour. They started with help of starting fluid. When I got home I decided to just change them out. I pulled the batteries and bought new ones. Fluid level was way down below the plates. Maintenance, maintenance, maintenance. A lot of problems can be solved by asking your self, have I done the maintenance for this item. Good luck.

I checked the fluids and they are good. I do carry a generator to run the squid light...duh, maybe I should have used it to charge the battery before I call for a tow.

[Knot Now]

I Hook up shore power and proceed to clean the boat. I was about to start
removing the starter, but decided to hit the switch and she comes alive...wtf? Turn her off and tried again...click click? Finished washing the boat and hit the switch and she starts again!

It could be either. The starter solenoid had a disk that makes contact between the incoming current connection and the starter motor. If that disk has a "bad" spot the starter will just “click” until it rotates enough to “self clean” the disk. If the voltage is low activating the solenoid the contact might also be poor enough that the starter will not turn. Both conditions will cause the starter to fail.

[DOGHOUSE26]

Hey Jeff,
I use 2 6V trojans for the house. I do alot of sitting on the hook at the island and they have serve me well. They are only about 18 months old. I got a feeling my starting battery may have gone bad. I will take it out and have it load tested before I take the starter out.

Are you using 1 or 2 starting batteries separate from your 6v Trojans? I know Russ on Time Out swears by 2 banks of 6 volt Trojans and he says he never has a problem. I just use 4-Delco or Interstate Deep Cycle Battarries and I get 3-4 years out of a set. Our Blackmans have an automatic switch solenoid which separaters the banks when the key is off.

[Wa Mei]

Are you using 1 or 2 starting batteries separate from your 6v Trojans? I know Russ on Time Out swears by 2 banks of 6 volt Trojans and he says he never has a problem. I just use 4-Delco or Interstate Deep Cycle Battarries and I get 3-4 years out of a set. Our Blackmans have an automatic switch solenoid which separaters the banks when the key is off.

Hi Jeff,

I only use 1 starting battery. It has better cracking power than the 2 6v
trojans. However, the trojans are really good house batteries.

The more I think about this, the more I think it is the starter that is starting
to go. Normally, when the batteries are too low to start the motor, it will atleast try to turn or give you multiples clicks. I get only a click on this scenario.

It's worth the time to take it out and send it to Lewco and have them check it out along with getting the starting battery load tested.

[Libre]

If you are getting multiple fast clicks, yes battery is low. If it's just one click that's your battery having plenty of juice trying but the starter doesn't go it just clicks once. So sounds like your starter is going bad to me. It will start randomly like that as knot Now mentioned because it eventually hits a good spot. And Eventually it will get bad enough and never start. Some times if you hit/tap on the starter that will get it to move enough to hit a good spot and start.

I'm no mechanic, just my .02 from experience.

Tony

[Wa Mei]

If you are getting multiple fast clicks, yes battery is low. If it's just one click that's your battery having plenty of juice trying but the starter doesn't go it just clicks once. So sounds like your starter is going bad to me. It will start randomly like that as knot Now mentioned because it eventually hits a good spot. And Eventually it will get bad enough and never start. Some times if you hit/tap on the starter that will get it to move enough to hit a good spot and start.

I'm no mechanic, just my .02 from experience.

Tony

Thanks Tony. I agree that it is most likely a bad starter. Lewco Electrics
suggests that I check the battery and connections first. I will start there
and then proceed to take the starter out if neccessary.